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Tier 3 Regulations

Canada Free Press -- EPA intends to tighten the screws, in the midst of a severe recession with high gasoline prices is particularly reckless

Although the general public hasn’t heard much about it, the EPA is preparing to issue so-called “Tier 3” regulations on automakers and refiners, which are even more stringent than the “Tier 2” standards announced in 1999 and fully implemented in 2006. As usual, EPA hasn’t given a satisfactory justification for the tightening of the standards. One study conservatively estimates Tier 3 would impose an upfront compliance cost on refiners of almost $10 billion, and would permanently raise refinery costs 6 to 9 cents per gallon.

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Submitted Jun 16, 2012 By: wendy1john32

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NOTSOGRN Champion Author Michigan Posts:2,055 Points:1,508,620 Joined:Dec 2007	Message Posted: Jun 18, 2012 1:02:57 AM Ignore NOTSOGRN Report Abuse . . Time to get EPA out of my gas... . N5EXY good one... ; ) [Edited by: NOTSOGRN at 6/18/2012 1:05:04 AM EST]
muquee Champion Author Harrisburg Posts:2,421 Points:519,795 Joined:Nov 2011	Message Posted: Jun 17, 2012 1:14:18 PM Ignore muquee Report Abuse Just what we need, more regs.
goldrose1 Champion Author Cleveland Posts:10,926 Points:1,922,555 Joined:Feb 2005	Message Posted: Jun 17, 2012 1:13:45 PM Ignore goldrose1 Report Abuse interesting
remay Champion Author Houston Posts:6,953 Points:2,114,690 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Jun 17, 2012 10:48:00 AM Ignore remay Report Abuse "Conclusion Even in a prosperous economy, tightening the screws even more on the vehicle and refining sectors—while achieving little if any incremental environmental benefits—would be a dubious proposition. To do so, as EPA intends, in the midst of a severe recession with high gasoline prices is particularly reckless." Well, okay, then. Probably won't change decisions, though...
tomok Champion Author Portland Posts:32,934 Points:2,342,585 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Jun 17, 2012 5:41:41 AM Ignore tomok Report Abuse Tier 3 will lower the sulfur content of gasoline and diesel, adds 6 to 9 cents per gallon of fuel AND lowers the emission standards for engines. It does Not matter what kind of economy or lack of adequate jobs there are for 'coming out of the closet' Barry, the EPA will implement these regulations no matter what! Take care of the economy first, the EPA and Barry have 'gone wild!' Whatever the size or shape of the vehicle, Produce and ‘Drive’ vehicles with high MPG, are very safe and reliable, have a ‘reasonable’ cost and a good ‘value’ for the money. Consider using other forms of less expensive transportation to lower your cost, if possible. The price of fuel at the pump is too high! 12/22/2012!
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5kvdave All-Star Author Los Angeles Posts:688 Points:350,000 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Jun 17, 2012 3:25:31 AM Ignore 5kvdave Report Abuse MORE EPA B.S.
crreed1 Champion Author West Virginia Posts:1,970 Points:2,523,410 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Jun 17, 2012 12:17:06 AM Ignore crreed1 Report Abuse any thing to bring the price back up
cmsense Champion Author Columbus Posts:1,358 Points:165,345 Joined:Jan 2012	Message Posted: Jun 17, 2012 12:16:43 AM Ignore cmsense Report Abuse For the posters that believe they KNOW everything, try crawling out from under your rock and travel out of the U.S. to China or India and breath in the stuff we refer to as air there and let us all know what you think.Wouldn't you like to breath that everyday here?
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DTroytNC Veteran Author Charlotte Posts:366 Points:62,510 Joined:Jan 2012	Message Posted: Jun 17, 2012 12:15:17 AM Ignore DTroytNC Report Abuse Is this necessary? What future environmental impact will this measure have, especially considering the growing demand for gasoline in China, India and Africa where no such regulations exist.
PaylessKY Champion Author Kentucky Posts:8,705 Points:1,578,525 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Jun 17, 2012 12:14:18 AM Ignore PaylessKY Report Abuse The EPA has way too much authority. They should be an advisory board to the President, Congress and Senate only, nothing more.
tedjm1 Champion Author New York Posts:5,609 Points:800,300 Joined:Dec 2006	Message Posted: Jun 17, 2012 12:14:18 AM Ignore tedjm1 Report Abuse EPA has become to smart for itself. Seems it is more interested in making money for the gov't while giving all a giant headache for no valid reason. They do not seem to know how to do things in a more meaningful way. Power has gone to its head.
N5EXY Champion Author Austin Posts:5,477 Points:1,507,455 Joined:Jul 2004	Message Posted: Jun 17, 2012 12:13:09 AM Ignore N5EXY Report Abuse A prison or a gated community? Good grief. The P stands for prevention. Employment Prevention Agency.
quasar502 Champion Author Lansing Posts:3,568 Points:798,425 Joined:Jan 2011	Message Posted: Jun 17, 2012 12:12:24 AM Ignore quasar502 Report Abuse Sound that political piece to me.
SparkieMi Champion Author Kalamazoo Posts:3,244 Points:584,445 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Jun 17, 2012 12:12:15 AM Ignore SparkieMi Report Abuse Give me a break....
gamalerin Champion Author Tampa Posts:4,737 Points:990,585 Joined:Jul 2010	Message Posted: Jun 17, 2012 12:12:05 AM Ignore gamalerin Report Abuse No more EPA please.
jkpsr Champion Author New Jersey Posts:4,069 Points:1,099,855 Joined:Jun 2005	Message Posted: Jun 17, 2012 12:11:49 AM Ignore jkpsr Report Abuse Going to CNG or LNG would satisfy these needs.
1fulltank Champion Author Buffalo Posts:7,888 Points:1,541,385 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Jun 17, 2012 12:10:59 AM Ignore 1fulltank Report Abuse "P" stands for protection; "A" stands for agency. We're not exactly sure what "E" stands for.
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jdc17327 Champion Author Pennsylvania Posts:2,555 Points:197,565 Joined:May 2009	Message Posted: Jun 17, 2012 12:10:11 AM Ignore jdc17327 Report Abuse what?
throttle Champion Author Maryland Posts:11,982 Points:2,464,695 Joined:Jul 2004	Message Posted: Jun 17, 2012 12:07:05 AM Ignore throttle Report Abuse Wonderful!
pastorpaulcg Champion Author Virginia Posts:3,615 Points:775,785 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Jun 17, 2012 12:06:58 AM Ignore pastorpaulcg Report Abuse Hahahaha
PrinceLH Champion Author Ontario Posts:2,677 Points:535,120 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Jun 17, 2012 12:06:29 AM Ignore PrinceLH Report Abuse Creeping socialism and Nanny State makes for more tax revenue.
g747 Champion Author Mobile Posts:4,521 Points:929,670 Joined:Jul 2009	Message Posted: Jun 17, 2012 12:04:47 AM Ignore g747 Report Abuse E.P.A.,you guys cost us more than we can afford!!!!!!!!!!!.
NemoIL Champion Author Illinois Posts:3,005 Points:1,309,220 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Jun 17, 2012 12:04:35 AM Ignore NemoIL Report Abuse We live in a prison because of the out of control "green" EPA.
bababooey2 Champion Author Hartford Posts:6,337 Points:1,299,915 Joined:Sep 2009	Message Posted: Jun 17, 2012 12:02:38 AM Ignore bababooey2 Report Abuse Get rid of the EPA
Spankster85 Champion Author Chicago Posts:1,709 Points:353,815 Joined:Nov 2011	Message Posted: Jun 17, 2012 12:01:16 AM Ignore Spankster85 Report Abuse Just what I wanted, something else to jack up prices at the pump. I knew I wasn't paying enough already.
TumaloDodge Veteran Author Oregon Posts:409 Points:291,565 Joined:Jan 2009	Message Posted: Jun 17, 2012 12:00:26 AM Ignore TumaloDodge Report Abuse no agency should have the power the EPA does, congress needs to take their authority away or get rid of the epa.
themaninthehat Champion Author New Orleans Posts:1,824 Points:472,265 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Jun 17, 2012 12:00:14 AM Ignore themaninthehat Report Abuse and yet you can breathe freely in this country thanks to the EPA.
dabbadu Champion Author New York Posts:1,056 Points:658,605 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Jun 16, 2012 11:57:18 PM Ignore dabbadu Report Abuse A necessary "evil."
farn1958 All-Star Author Twin Cities Posts:886 Points:183,385 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Jun 16, 2012 11:55:17 PM Ignore farn1958 Report Abuse no matter what everyone who drives will be paying more because of it.
suzmar Champion Author Texas Posts:2,210 Points:869,225 Joined:Jun 2006	Message Posted: Jun 16, 2012 11:46:30 PM Ignore suzmar Report Abuse We need to do away with the EPA, they answer to no one. They have long outlived their usefulness. Please vote for a change in November!
WIPACKERFAN Champion Author Chicago Posts:8,789 Points:1,840,525 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Jun 16, 2012 11:46:06 PM Ignore WIPACKERFAN Report Abuse No madtraveler. Just abolish the EPA.
cbuck80 Champion Author Massachusetts Posts:1,597 Points:399,530 Joined:Jan 2012	Message Posted: Jun 16, 2012 11:45:45 PM Ignore cbuck80 Report Abuse yaha
Tekkersmom57 Champion Author Syracuse Posts:1,859 Points:697,640 Joined:May 2010	Message Posted: Jun 16, 2012 11:43:48 PM Ignore Tekkersmom57 Report Abuse Sounds like another waste of money to follow through with this plan. It always seems to be something brewing with the government that will pass their "great ideas" onto the consumer at some additional cost.
MadTraveler Champion Author Idaho Posts:2,082 Points:572,100 Joined:Nov 2009	Message Posted: Jun 16, 2012 11:43:07 PM Ignore MadTraveler Report Abuse Abolish the EPA and start over with and EPA that has some common sense.
Gassed01 Champion Author Toronto Posts:6,339 Points:1,799,115 Joined:Jan 2006	Message Posted: Jun 16, 2012 11:39:09 PM Ignore Gassed01 Report Abuse They're from the government and they're here to help. NOT
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Dodge_Me Champion Author Atlanta Posts:2,214 Points:553,980 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: Jun 16, 2012 11:35:41 PM Ignore Dodge_Me Report Abuse Hmm
Mustache_33 All-Star Author Toronto Posts:900 Points:181,455 Joined:May 2012	Message Posted: Jun 16, 2012 11:34:17 PM Ignore Mustache_33 Report Abuse >:[
jrsva Champion Author Virginia Posts:9,835 Points:1,610,075 Joined:Jan 2006	Message Posted: Jun 16, 2012 11:30:16 PM Ignore jrsva Report Abuse Interesting piece but it is not a news article, rather an opinion column on a conservative blog, not within GB guidelines for Newsville.
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NashGas Champion Author Nashville Posts:3,089 Points:662,330 Joined:Dec 2009	Message Posted: Jun 16, 2012 11:28:19 PM Ignore NashGas Report Abuse Last thing we need to do is let Congress or any politician make any decision.
Dennisjk Champion Author Detroit Posts:6,466 Points:1,921,450 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: Jun 16, 2012 11:22:42 PM Ignore Dennisjk Report Abuse We need to get rid of the EPA and let Congress make the laws and regulations. At least we can vote those guys out.
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OOXXFF Champion Author Greensboro Posts:3,043 Points:1,075,505 Joined:Sep 2009	Message Posted: Jun 16, 2012 11:20:37 PM Ignore OOXXFF Report Abuse The EPA should keep us safe.
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ILoveGoldens All-Star Author Kentucky Posts:901 Points:378,880 Joined:Aug 2011	Message Posted: Jun 16, 2012 11:15:50 PM Ignore ILoveGoldens Report Abuse clermont40miles had a really good answer!