dmatte85

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One word. Greed. There is no need for these high gas prices. We have plenty of oil here, so what is the big fuss over. Whether the prices are 2.50 or 3.50, this will not significantly change the amount of gas people use. So why does the government think that raising gas prices will lower the consumption of gas and in turn there be more gas. It's not significant enough.
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OHMS

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what I can say and what I can type here are two very different things
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Don1222

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Rising gas prices add up fine = Greed
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24541

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Drill here. Drill now. Pay less.
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magnumCA

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OH my!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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HawaiianGuy

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"What's a mother to do?"
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DFleming

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I agree. Business are always quick to pass on costs and slow to pass on savings. That's human psychology, not just classic economics.
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mckellyb

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This is classic economics...the kind not taught in school.
Prices rise immediately when COG (cost of goods) rises, and drop slowly, if at all, when it falls.
Extra profit is always welcomed.
Anything else is purely spin. Since gasoline spot market prices are easy to find, just find CNBC, channel 355 on DirecTV, it's even harder to tolerate.
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Mazdaman7Q

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Gas prices + Big Oil=
GREED
Yup, add's up alright!
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rnb1954

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We should know that big business just needs more money to pay for minimum wage going up.
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OKRifle

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Oh, it ADDS UP alright....and we get to pay for it!!!
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dougrusty

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All as I know is that MY pockets are empty.
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zivkam

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This is why speculation on oil futures should be adjusted... either with the amount put down or something else.
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w4kh

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Still, it is all about money... profits for the Big Oil Companies and OPEC.
Why should they care about the pump price of gasoline?
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tbybee

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They can't make as much on jet fuel because air travel is down so they make up for it at the gas pump.
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tonycmd

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I knew this
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laddyboy62

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they are related..
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amacquarrie

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we guessed this a long time ago
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patbob56

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hmmm
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grandamgt1

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as long as people keep paying inflated prices, why should they need to connected?
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suzyq2007

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I really believe there is a lot of price gouging going on. If the price of crude oil goes down, the price of gas should go down. When crude goes up, they cannot wait to raise the price. why does it not work in reverse???
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RPetty

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they never do. too many economic/POLITICAL factors involved...
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Wolfwings

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Today,s spot price is $104.45 a barrel. Forty gallons per barrel. The refineries use every drop of that crude to make gasoline, diesel, plastics, rubber products, and, even building products, and then re-use the delivery containers(ships). Last year local gas costs were $2.613, This year about $0.75 more. If we can just convince the speculators not to speculate on oil, crude costs go down forcing pump prices to follow
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e_jeepin

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It's easy.
Refineries have very little competition and retailers mostly draw from the same distribution hub.
In the States, Gasoline futures have dropped about 90 cents over the past 60 days and we bottomed out at 45 cents off at the pump. The other 45 cents is windfall.
As long as all retailers hold the price, that is where it stays.
I'm buying refinery stocks, they are making huge money in the 3rd and 4th quarter.
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kevski

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solid, in depth, reporting
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dred001

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jb47 ..... gas price in europe has nothing to do with shell or exxon ... oil cost the same ... refining it maybe cost a bit more ... say few cents a gal .. but the real reason ......... is ..... redistribution of wealth ... from the user of gas to the govt... yep taxes! ..... gled we in CA only pay about a buck a gal! wow over there its like 4 Bucks a gal!
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gasie1

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Voodoo economices.
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Gassie1

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I knew it!
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bwatchin

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Its just about money. After the oil companies make theirs, the states and countries want to make theirs, in the form of taxes. There are benefits and drawbacks. The drawbacks surface as greed on the part of suppliers and high government taxes. The benefits as highways, roads and public transportation. But the average paying consumer is now getting abused by all sides...
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julius1st4

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That is correct::: OIL/bbl has been dropping for 1 week [from $116 to $107], but gas has stayed the same [ie: ave. ` $1.24/li]
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qaqcsup

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I remember as a boy, addition was learned in first grade, subtraction was second grade, multiplication was third grade and division was fourth grade.
It is obvious that speculators never passed first grade.
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steveski

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that he's a moron?
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markmoore80

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Whatever.
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miatabill

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They seem to be correlated with oil goes up...just not when it comes down.
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jck667

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"doo-doo economics" Funny!
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platypus1926

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daaah.....come on Mr turtle, catch up!!!
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Bababouie

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Looking at the price charts in my area, gas prices have not kept pace with the huge rise in the price of oil, so this is not surprising.
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techque

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Since this time last year, Canadian average gasoline increased 30%, while the price of crude increased over 60%. that's where all the producers $50 billion/quarter profits came from. They naturally are trying to hold on to those $50 billion profit margins with declining price of crude and declining demand for product, so they are reluctant to drop product prices.
rocket science strikes again.
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jb47

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Oil companies here won't be happy until they get the price of a gallon of gas up to where it sells in Europe. Around $8.00 a gallon
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bab506

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old news.
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suj

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I don't think that they are connected at all. The price of a barrel goes up a little, the price at the pump goes up tons. The price of a barrel drops through the floor, the price at the pump drops a penny. No correlation at all.
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gasman50

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Still dropping in Portland, Ore
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domer2

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greed. they want a 20 % profit margin.
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Lovelee

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Conclusion: "Maybe the crude price and the refined price don't bear any relation to each other after all. And just maybe the price of gasoline doesn't bear any relation to anything at all, except corporate greed."
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Don20

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I would say its greed coming on again...
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RochBear

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Both Oil and Gas are sold on the commodities market. So the price is set by the bidders. Now the refiners can refuse to sell gasoline until they get a certain price. But other than that, there really isn't a direct relationship, even though one would think there should be. It's like any auction, the prices don't always make sense. (you can get things at an auction for pennies on the dollar, or I have seen people pay more for a used item, than you could go buy it new for (and it's not an antique))
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AC-302

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It's not so straightforward a probelm..
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Brockvillian

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I gave up on trying to figure this stuff out. It is a conspiracy at the highest levels.
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The_WB

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Second that one!
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MorelandIns

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sounds like it always does... TOO POLITICAL !!!!
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